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KSHSamy says:

Zionists are very good in twisting words and lying.

ISRAEL was the name of a Prophet.

In the Quran, the old and the new testaments is often referred to the jews with “the sons of Israel” which basically means “the offsprings of the Prophet Israel”, and not ” the inhabitants of a land called “israel” “!

It’s a shame that your’e uneducated and use cheap propaganda to justify your agenda (instead of real facts)

After what Israel is doing to Palestinians, now who can still sympathize with their plight at the hand of Nazis.

Said lecture begins at 10:37, all other comments are fluff.

i dunno why is this comment by KSHSamy hidden! It´s not a SPAM, It´s the TRUTH!!!

KSHSamy says:

Zionists are very good in twisting words and lying.

ISRAEL was the name of a Prophet.

In the Quran, the old and the new testaments is often referred to the jews with “the sons of Israel” which basically means “the offsprings of the Prophet Israel”, and not ” the inhabitants of a land called “israel” “!

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it’s so unfortunate that the Palestinians have to pay for the holocaust through the creation of Israel

Zionists are very good in twisting words and lying.

ISRAEL was the name of a Prophet.

In the Quran, the old and the new testaments is often referred to the jews with “the sons of Israel” which basically means “the offsprings of the Prophet Israel”, and not ” the inhabitants of a land called “israel” “!

But between 1967 and 1993 Arabs who hold US passports and were born in the disputed territorys–it says on their US passports–if for exampel they’r born in Ramalla, it says in the US passport –”West Bank”, if they’re born in Gaza, it just says “Gaza”–but not “Palestine”

Look closer at your US pasport next time, sweety– it probably says, “Palestinian Authority”, not “Palestine” unless you are lying completely.

If your american passport says you’re born in “Palestine” it probably means you were born here between 1917 & 1948 when the British gave the country this name –but I don’t think you’re so old–or maybe if you’re born in Palestinian Authority-controlled areas of the West Bank/Gaza between 1993 and the present it says “Palestinian Authority”–”Palestinian Authority”–not “Palestine”. It is a key difference. Palestinian Authority is a legal entity, but not a state.

Ya’ Samy–

Shame on you for calling yourself a Muslim. Really, how can you be so ignorant–?

‘Anta jahili!

Even your own book, the Quran–never mentiones this word “Palestine”–but you know which word it mentions a lot?

“Israel”!

But you say the word “Palestine” came before the word “Israel”? How come you say that?

I say this with love and respect for all good Muslims and Arabs who know the truth.

The word “Palestine”–”Palaestina” was first used by the Roman after they defeat Judea, which was a Jewish state in Eretz Yisrael. The romans used this word to try & erase the memory of the independent Jewish kingdoms of Yisrael and Yehuda–but the truth is the name was never used by the people of the country until recent. It is very nice if the local Arab want to use this name, that’s their right, but the words Yisrael, Yisraeli, etc..are much older than “Palestine”, “Palestinian”

Zionists argue about the term Palestine as being a newly invented term .

These sick people “forget” that the words “Palestine” and “Palestinian” are much older than “israel” and “israelian”.

Shame on you, criminals.

I’m afraid not, Said! Unfortunately, most of the sane people think that you’re an utter prat! Ask them who they’d prefer to meet: Edward Said or the man, who cleans out the public toilets in Aberdeen, and they’d go for Wee Jock “Poo-Pong” McPlop every time.

“unless you are descended from the native Arabic Jewish community which was very tiny like I said only 10000 in 1880. ”
As I said, the Jewish comunity was 25,000–not “10,000″ in 1880. And many local Jews (including my family) used Arabic as a language (in my family Ladino, French and later English and modern Hebrew were also spoke) we do not and did not refer to ourselfs as so called “Arabic Jews” thank you very much.Arabic is just one of many foreign languages local Jews used in that period

“What youre doing is hurting your cause, you simply cannot erase people from history!”

I dont want to erase anybody from histroy, I accept that many Arabs here have deep roots in this country-and they started to idetify as “Palestinian”. What I say I disagree with is the lie that they existed as a “Palestinian nation” in the past. I am also not against them to have a state next to my Jewish state–but that state mustnt pose a threat to us. If they can prove it not a threat, then no problem!

Yeah, the BenGurion quote reflects total empathy, as well as pragmatic realism. I am from a family that is traditionally voted for Herut (Jabotinksy & Begin) but I recognise we had a great leader with BG and he got our country for us. The quote shows he recognised that the Arabs wont accept the reality of a free Jewish country in what they think is therie exclusive land and was prepared to deal with that for that time. I am of course always hoping that this attitude will change, I am optimist!

“if palestinians did a mass conversion to judaism, will the conflict end?”
Who wants them to do mass conversion to Judaism? Jews, unlike Christians or Muslims, do not arrogantly wish to impose our religion on outsiders. The conflict can end if the Arab world accepts the essential historical justice and reality of the Jewish nation to have independence in its homeland. We in turn agree for compromise and to let a small additional state for the local Arabs in addition to the 22 other Arab countrys

Corrected typo—my first sentence should read–”Where did you see me argue that Arabs have NOT lived here for many centuries”

not “Where did you see me argue that Arabs have lived here for many centuries”

Where did you see me argue that Arabs have historically lived here for many centuries? I did argue against the counter-historical nonsense that there was a “Palestinian” state or nation here in the past and I clearly stated that I support the creation of a state for the local Arabs, to be called “Palestine” or any other funny name they fancy, as long as it does not threaten or endanger the rights of the Jews to self-determination living in sovereign Israel, which is a Jewish state.

ShmorgelBorgel, There was no state called India until modern time either. Did that mean those people in now Indian never lived there? The people who are called Palestinianins have hhistorically lived there and that’s a historical fact. Only a freak would argue about that fact.

As I said, it’s peachy if the local Arabs, who never historically had an identity as “Palestinian” but adopted the term recently–want to call themselves “Palestinian” (or any other invented term)–that’s just great. The local Arabs have that right to adopt that term, they even have the right to self-determination AS LONG AS as it doesn’t threaten OUR country, Israel, but they don’t have the right to invent history.If you want to call yourselves “Palestinian”, t’fadalu, just don’t make stuff up!

Pay attention. There was no “state” called “Palestine”. Not in the sense of it being an independent sovereign state, nor in the sense of it even being an administrative unit of another state, such as the Ottoman state. The Ummayads briefly referred to one military district as “jund Filastin”, but that was not coterminous with any state. The EUROPEANS, such as those who wrote Baedekkers guides referred to the region as “Palestine”. Not the locals, neither the Jewish locals nor Arab locals.

here is the thing buddy,
arabs and non arabs, muslims and non muslims, jews.. blah blah..
these are all just excuses to all wuts goin on.
if the issue is really religion (coz “homeland” crap) lets ask whos a jew? if palestinians did a mass conversion to judaism, will the conflict end?
if it was race, whats the jews race?
can a person be arab jew?
can he be persian jew?
or lets say it was really GOD’s “promise”
really? could it be? a God that makes a racist promise?
hmm….